Conversation
Dan Nigro, Charlie Sacrona and Julio Tavarez (Sean Fitzgerald was not present) of As Tall as Lions sat in their tiny dressing room listening to 12” vinyl records on a portable player relaxing before their show. They let me join them and ask them a few questions before they took the stage to open for Cage The Elephant on March 1st 2010.
WHERE ARE YOU GUYS ORIGINALLY FROM?
Dan:New York, Long Island.
DID YOU ALL GROW UP TOGETHER?
Dan:Charlie, Sean and I went to High School together, and Julio I actually met while I was in, I guess, junior high school and he was in elementary school.
Julio:No Way!
Dan:Yeah.
Julio:No Dude!
Dan:Yeah Way!
Julio:Dude! I met you when I was dating Lauren.
Dan:I met you before that!
Julio:Yeah but that didn’t count. I didn’t know who you were. When I first met you for the first time, that was the first time I remembered seeing you.
Dan:(to me) I met Julio when he was younger but he didn’t meet me. (to Julio) I knew you.
Julio:Was I like crazy when I was younger when you first met me?
Dan:I don’t remember. (Laughing) OK so then Julio and I met when I was a college student and Julio was in high school. Sean, Charlie and I already had a band together, and then when As Tall As Lions formed. Our guitar player left and actually we tried Julio out, and it didn’t really work out. So I moved over to guitar and we had two guitar players at the time. And when our bass player left in 2004, Julio joined the band on the bass.
WHAT KIND OF MUSIC WOULD YOU DEFINE YOURSELVES AS? WHAT KIND OF GENRE?
Dan:Basically just a rock band I guess.
Julio:I think calling it a rock band is the only thing you can kinda get away with. You know it’s just a general thing.
Dan:Yeah, I mean there are two guitars, bass and drums onstage. It’s like no matter what we will ever do, we will never shake off the fact that we are a rock band.
SO YOU CALL YOURSELVES A ROCK BAND BECAUSE YOU CAN'T CONFINE YOURSELVES TO ONE SPECIFIC TYPE OF GENRE?
Dan:Exactly
HOW DID YOU COME UP WITH THE NAME "AS TALL AS LIONS?"
Dan:Our guitar player Sean came up with it when we were in college. I guess at the time he was thinking about starting a solo project, and when I saw the band name, I really liked it. So I asked him if it could be the name of our band. (All laugh) So that’s how the name came about.
WHEN DID YOU ALL START PLAYING?
Dan:Well Charlie Sean and I have been playing together since (pauses) I think it was like 1998. We started As Tall As Lions in 2002. We were in a band in high school that went through college, and then the band broke up. Then about 6/7 months later after the band had broken up, we decided to reconvene, and start it again. We went with some different members, a different name, and try to write from a different standpoint.
HOW WOULD YOU SAY YOU HAVE EVOLVED SINCE 2002 INTO AS TALL AS LIONS IN 2010?
Dan:It’s hard to say. I mean just naturally growing with everything you are experiencing, you are evolving. You are experiencing new friends, new cities, countries, music, books, and anything you are absorbing into your mind your learning from it. Good or bad. I think that just changes you. Definitely when you are writing, if you are writing honestly, your music is going to change, because you are. You’re changed as a person.
WHEN YOU WRITE DO YOUR LYRICS LEAN TOWARDS ONE TYPE OF SUBJECT?
Dan:No. Our lyrics are never about one specific thing. Especially on the new record, the subject matter is all over the place. I think that is also a product of evolution where you are just experiencing more. Where earlier songs may have been all about love, and writing about relationships, obviously when you’re like a teenager.
LIKE YOUR FIRST HEARTBREAK?
Dan:Yeah like that sort of stuff. You can relate to, and attach yourself to it at the moment. And then, as you get older, I feel like other things start to affect you and you write about those things as well.
WHAT WOULD YOU SAY YOUR BIGGEST CHALLENGE AS A BAND OVERALL HAS BEEN?
Dan:Challenges? I think more recently it’s just that we have four people in our band that have very strong personalities. We’re all musicians, we’re all song writers, and with that involves a lot of creativity and a lot of conflict. And I think for our band that’s a big challenge. Being able to be creative together and absorb everybody elses ideas and still make it feel like something that’s yours. Because there’s so much creative energy going on, and when you’re a band it’s a collaborative effort. So, if this person is being creative in this way, and you’re being creative in that way, like if your moods aren’t joining together, it’s hard to find the road to feel relatable to each other. That’s a huge conflict. I know for me it’s a big thing that I go through. You have to constantly take yourself out of the picture, to look at what’s going on, to gain perspective on it, to get back in to feel comfortable with it.
WHEN YOU WRITE SONGS, DO YOU SIT DOWN AND WRITE COLLECTIVELY?
Dan:It’s really different. Every record has been different from the last and every song is different from each other. Everybody in the band writes songs. Sometimes it does stem from someone coming in with a really simple idea. Say just by a piano and a vocal, or a guitar and a vocal. Sometimes it comes from us walking into the studio, and somebody has spent the last two days on pro tools and made up a new song. It has everything laid out from the drums, the guitar, the bass, the vocals, lyrics, everything. Sometimes it’s our job in the band to just, take that idea and play it and find a way and make it feel like you were a part of that process. Sometimes it is a completely collaborative effort when we’re sitting in the band room jamming and it’s like hey what’s that drumbeat? That’s cool let’s build on that. Then also, we have a song that we all wrote together from ground zero. So it really depends on the song.
HOW WOULD YOU DEFINE THE TERM SUCCESS AS FAR AS YOURSELF AND YOUR BAND?
Dan:To me it has a lot to do with happiness.
Julio:It has a lot to do with happiness.
Dan:Success monetarily is completely irrelevant if you’re not happy. It has to do with your own happiness and feeling content with what you do on a daily basis.
YOU DON'T BASE YOUR SUCCESS ON RECORD SALES? IT'S MORE ABOUT THE ENJOYMENT IT BRINGS YOU?
Dan:Yeah. If you can keep yourself happy getting creative and getting onstage everyday and doing it, then it feels successful. That doesn’t happen every day. There are definitely times where it doesn’t feel right and to be completely honest, it feels really good when you look, like I know that everybody in our band, when we hit number 8 on the Billboards that feels pretty cool. That feels good. It makes you feel like you did something successful.
Julio:But then a week later you are off the charts because someone else came out with something new. (All laugh)
Dan:But then you set new goals for yourself.
IF YOU ELIMINATE THAT COMPETITION THEN YOU DON'T HAVE ANY GOALS AND NOTHING FURTHER TO STRIVE FOR.
Dan:Right, that’s an issue. That’s a big issue.
Julio:Yeah.
WHAT HAS BEEN YOUR FAVORITE LIVE SHOW TO PLAY, OR DO YOU HAVE ANY MEMORABLE PERFORMANCES?
Julio:At The Fillmore in San Francisco. (pauses) Australia.
Dan:Australia before The Offspring (Laughing) I can name the worst live experience.
WHATS THE WORST LIVE EXPERIENCE?
Dan:We played in Australia, the second time we were there, the first show. It was in front of 10,000 people in Brisbane, Australia, and it was just Julio and I. We were just doing an acoustic set and we were on in between Incubus and The Offspring on the main stage.
Julio:And no one knew who we were.
Dan:And no one knew who we were.
Julio:And we had acoustic guitars and Incubus had just played.
Dan:We just had shit thrown at us the whole time and people chanting Offspring over us playing. And that was like a defining moment of if you can get through this…
Julio:That’s a pretty humbling experience.
Dan:If you can get through this show, then you can get through anything. It just does not get worse than that.
SO THAT DEFINITELY GAVE YOU SOME THICK SKIN.
Dan:Yeah, it did.
Julio:(to Charlie silently eating gummy bears) Did they give us gummy bears Cliff??
Charlie:Yeah
Julio:That’s awesome! Did we up date our rider?
Charlie:No.
Julio:So they just gave them to us by chance?
Charlie:Yeah. And they’re the ones I like too, see?
Julio:(to me) We ask for gummy bears on our new rider.
DO YOU EVER ADD ANY WEIRD REQUESTS TO YOUR RIDER?
Julio:A magician, a weight bench, access to an in-ground pool (laughs)
THERE'S A WATER PARK ACROSS THE STREET, BUT IT'S CLOSED IN THE WINTER, SO YOU ALMOST GOT THAT!
Julio:That’s what I heard.
DO YOU PUT IN ON THERE JUST TO SEE IF YOU GET IT?
Julio:Yeah (laughing)
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ACOUSTIC NIGHT - - Watching Christine Martucci play an acoustic show is something that everyone should have the pleasure of experiencing. She sits center stage holding her acoustic guitar surrounded by devoted fans that have become known as “The Tucci Train.” She plays just as comfortably without her band behind her and her impeccable vocal range becomes even more obvious without them. The interaction between Martucci and her train becomes apparently noticeable when she stops singing during “All My Life” and they begin singing the lyrics to her. She ended her 30 minute set with “There You Are” as fans cheerfully threw dollar bills onto the stage. When I asked Martucci what started the money throwing tradition she told me that it began about five years ago when while she was playing a show at The Saint in Asbury Park. “I grabbed my guitar player during that song and started doing a sexy little pole dance on his leg. (Laughs) People started tossing money onto the stage and now it has become some sort of tradition. It’s something that they still continue to do every time I play There You Are.” All of the money that ends up on stage at the end of the night she donates to charity, so when you go to see Christine Martucci live, don’t be shy about tossing a few dollars at her, it goes to a good cause.
Unfortunately for opening act Mal Blum and her guest Simon Little, it was clear that fans were not there to see them. She had trouble bringing the focus away from the bar and to the stage. She even had to stop midway through her set to ask the chatty drinkers to quiet down. Her performance was more like watching an open mic night and her vocal capabilities did not rank anywhere near her opener Christine Martucci. To try and bring the crowd’s attention to the stage instead of the bar, Blum made an attempt to talk about the familiar Jersey Shore television show. When she got no response from the audience she and Little played one last song and said goodnight. The crowd was just uninterested in Blum’s acoustic guitar and Little’s Banjo/Harmonica playing.
I didn’t really know what to expect going into Melissa Ferrick’s show. I did some prior research online and checked out her MySpace page before hand, but was not overjoyed with what I heard. From the moment Ferrick took the stage, I could not believe this was the same woman I heard on the internet. The songs posted on her MySpace page do not do her any justice. I was pleasantly surprised by this indie folk singers strong vocal abilities and the way her fingers seemed to dance gracefully across the fret boards of her guitar. I could see why she played her shows acoustically. Ferrick does not need a band to support her and cover up any missed notes or flubbed lyrics. She is a talented musician and songwriter with no need for accompaniment. While these slip-ups do sometimes happen, they only make her more real. Her song lyrics open you to her life and seem disclose everything about her, but she stands confidently under the stage spotlight secure in her own skin.
Ferrrick played songs off of her past studio albums, a few cover songs, and tracks from her new album Enough About Me due out Tuesday. The crowded venue sang along when Ferrick covered Radiohead’s “Creep,” but sang even louder and danced around when she played the title track from her third studio album “Everything I Need.” An hour into her set Ferrick cracks a few jokes about being a lesbian, takes a shot at the Jersey Shore show, in which she gets a great response, and then moves into a song called “Heartbeat.” She says she wrote it after listening to a lot of Jack Johnson and you can hear the influence right from the first few notes.
She closes out the night with an encore performance of “Drive” but never left the stage like most musicians do. Why waste the time says Ferrick, you know I’m going to play that song. After tonight’s show I realized how and why Melissa Ferrick has been around for 15 years. She can now add my name to her list of fans.
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GOTTA WEAR SHADES - - When the house lights of Asbury Park’s legendary Stone Pony faded to black at 11 o’clock on Saturday night, the deafening crowd grew louder and glowed green. Local natives Status Green took the stage and were greeted by a sea of fans dressed in glow stick jewelry perfectly reflecting the band’s name. That night, the group chose to ditch their trademark suits and ties, and gave fans a more intimate experience as they returned to their hometown venue to celebrate the much anticipated release of their new album “Cheap Sunglasses.”
Status Green tore into their set with Denver After Dawn immediately getting the crowd moving and blissfully clapping along to their unique blend of pop-rock beats and infectious guitar sounds. The band played not only to a sold out crowd inside the venue, but for those that couldn’t get their hands on a ticket, the show was being streamed live online at justin.tv. Status Green hypnotized the audience with their energetic and charismatic stage presence as they played songs from their new record and kept fans dancing all night with both old and new material.
It was quite obvious that women were entranced by the bands charming good looks and flawless vocals when they shrieked with delight during Sting My Soul which perfectly showcases how guitarist Chris Marino’s harmonies are the ideal complement to Lou Montesano’s lead vocals.
When drummer Mike Montalto began playing the intro of Juggling Knives the overwhelming roar of the crowd was enough to indicate that it was a fan favorite. Followers immediately started bopping along to the familiar poppy synths of the captivating tune and took pleasure in the guitar talents supplied by both Marino and Montesano.
“Hey! You! Sneaking in my backdoor. Hey! You! Always trying to take my 1, 2!” the crowd sang along with Montesano, undoubtedly continuing to enjoying themselves as they chanted back the catchy lyrics of It Ain’t Me and grooved to the thumping bass played by Russell Tolas.
At the end of the night, the energetic, upbeat live show Status Green put on had fans cheering for more. The bands brilliant lyrics, impeccable stage presence and memorable music forced the quartet to return to the stage for an encore performance and they ended the night with a cover of Phil Collin’s In The Air Tonight.
Saturday nights sold out show is proof that this promising band is on the rise and will not be unsigned for long. I think it is safe to say that for Status Green, their futures so bright I gotta wear shades…or in this case, Cheap Sunglasses.
For more information on Status Green visit the band’s website at www.statusgreenmusic.com or www.myspace/statusgreen.com

Cheap Sunglasses is Available Now on iTunes